Of course it’s mostly to do with ethnocultural heritage. It’s just that anyone who isn’t actively anti-white is too terrified to assert that the indigenous peoples of Britain and its historically settled population have any special claim to it because this threatens the whole deck of cards which is multicultural Britain.
Of course, the same standards are not applied to others. 2nd or 3rd level immigrants are encouraged to celebrate their own ethnocultural identity. But why do they need to if they are “just as British” as you or me?
Absolutely. Unfortunately in the current warped political climate, for a politician to assert that English identity has anything to do with having English blood would be career suicide.
I think the next time an immigrant claims to be ‘just as English as me’ I’ll start harrassing them for the British Empire’s slave trading. Since, you know, they claim to be English.
Very interesting I am a Welshman which is a type of English-adjacent, and that makes me British which is a civic identity synonymous with Englishness when abroad, so I'd say identity is in the persona or spirit of a nation as it is for a person but this is dangerously close to the 'identify as you please,' crowd of leftists who claim that men can be women simply by declaration.
Carl Jung would say that identity is a constellation of things and how they come together to aggregate into something greater than the sum of their parts and that's what the leftists want to take away from you by defining terms and deconstructing each of the components of identity into nothingness.
Identity is therefore more akin to a spirit than a body of facts like history, values and so on. The English spirit must live on, the world would be immeasurably poorer without it.
Thanks for your comment. I agree that ethnic identity is something akin to a spirit. There’s of course a racial element to it—ancestral lineage—as well as ties to the land across many generations. Hence why it’s impossible for any first-generation immigrant to be considered English or Welsh or whatever and only possible for second-generation immigrants if they have one native parent. It’s a very complex issue that can only really be felt, which makes it easy for Leftists to deconstruct, unfortunately.
We’ll just have to say, ‘how dare you,’ to these rootless cosmopolitans and treat it as a personal attack, which it is.
They are the ones that want to be able to define identity as set of subjective feelings when it’s men identifying as women, but if we do the same, i.e. I identify as Welsh, and you identify as English, then suddenly that’s wrong.
We’re playing the identity game too, so we can identify as we want. It’s the same rules essentially except ours are based in a shared tradition, history, and codes of behaviours and so on.
It’s difficult to identify an ethnicity when you are it and you’re immersed in it and everybody else around you is it. It’s only really visible when go somewhere else. They instantly recognise us as British or English because of the way we behave in exactly the same way that we can tell when someone is French or Italian upon meeting them, or at the very least guess at it their ethnicity. That’s why leftists who are surrounded by people just like them say that the English have no culture. They are so blind, because they are so deeply immersed in it. It’s only when they bump into a Somali ‘Londoner,’ snatching their phone out of their hand as they whizz by on a moped that they realise that British values did indeed count for something and that ethnicity or the spirit of a people is a real thing!
Please don't ever shy away from a discussion about what is Englishness. If nothing else, being English is about being proud of your nation, and your nation, your country is England. Not Britain, not Great Britain and most fucking certainly not the United Kingdom. Those are nothing more than states and jurisdictions constructed to oppress the native peoples.
England was a federation of shires and counties with a constitution of laws and customs enshrined in perpetuity by brave and fearless men to protect her people and those in need of sanctuary.
Being English is about knowing the simple difference between right and wrong and living your life accordingly. Forget about distractors like Carl Yung who live in their heads when the fight is on the street outside your front door. Recognise when your birthright has been subverted by the evil of Communists like Karl Marx and his paymasters.
Ii have much respect for the ethnonationalist position but I'm also not completely closed to possibility that people who share our core values can help us regain control of England and her brothers and sisters in return for, one day helping them to take back control of their home lands.
Common-law. Free speech. Equality. Habeus Corpus. Most of the popular sports in the entire world. Taking the piss.
Oh, and 75% of indigenous English can trace their matrilineal DNA back 5,000 years.
Of course it’s mostly to do with ethnocultural heritage. It’s just that anyone who isn’t actively anti-white is too terrified to assert that the indigenous peoples of Britain and its historically settled population have any special claim to it because this threatens the whole deck of cards which is multicultural Britain.
Of course, the same standards are not applied to others. 2nd or 3rd level immigrants are encouraged to celebrate their own ethnocultural identity. But why do they need to if they are “just as British” as you or me?
Absolutely. Unfortunately in the current warped political climate, for a politician to assert that English identity has anything to do with having English blood would be career suicide.
I think the next time an immigrant claims to be ‘just as English as me’ I’ll start harrassing them for the British Empire’s slave trading. Since, you know, they claim to be English.
You might like https://ukresponse.substack.com/p/the-uses-of-language; or even https://ukresponse.substack.com/p/british-values-yeah-right
Very interesting I am a Welshman which is a type of English-adjacent, and that makes me British which is a civic identity synonymous with Englishness when abroad, so I'd say identity is in the persona or spirit of a nation as it is for a person but this is dangerously close to the 'identify as you please,' crowd of leftists who claim that men can be women simply by declaration.
Carl Jung would say that identity is a constellation of things and how they come together to aggregate into something greater than the sum of their parts and that's what the leftists want to take away from you by defining terms and deconstructing each of the components of identity into nothingness.
Identity is therefore more akin to a spirit than a body of facts like history, values and so on. The English spirit must live on, the world would be immeasurably poorer without it.
Thanks for your comment. I agree that ethnic identity is something akin to a spirit. There’s of course a racial element to it—ancestral lineage—as well as ties to the land across many generations. Hence why it’s impossible for any first-generation immigrant to be considered English or Welsh or whatever and only possible for second-generation immigrants if they have one native parent. It’s a very complex issue that can only really be felt, which makes it easy for Leftists to deconstruct, unfortunately.
We’ll just have to say, ‘how dare you,’ to these rootless cosmopolitans and treat it as a personal attack, which it is.
They are the ones that want to be able to define identity as set of subjective feelings when it’s men identifying as women, but if we do the same, i.e. I identify as Welsh, and you identify as English, then suddenly that’s wrong.
We’re playing the identity game too, so we can identify as we want. It’s the same rules essentially except ours are based in a shared tradition, history, and codes of behaviours and so on.
It’s difficult to identify an ethnicity when you are it and you’re immersed in it and everybody else around you is it. It’s only really visible when go somewhere else. They instantly recognise us as British or English because of the way we behave in exactly the same way that we can tell when someone is French or Italian upon meeting them, or at the very least guess at it their ethnicity. That’s why leftists who are surrounded by people just like them say that the English have no culture. They are so blind, because they are so deeply immersed in it. It’s only when they bump into a Somali ‘Londoner,’ snatching their phone out of their hand as they whizz by on a moped that they realise that British values did indeed count for something and that ethnicity or the spirit of a people is a real thing!
Please don't ever shy away from a discussion about what is Englishness. If nothing else, being English is about being proud of your nation, and your nation, your country is England. Not Britain, not Great Britain and most fucking certainly not the United Kingdom. Those are nothing more than states and jurisdictions constructed to oppress the native peoples.
England was a federation of shires and counties with a constitution of laws and customs enshrined in perpetuity by brave and fearless men to protect her people and those in need of sanctuary.
Being English is about knowing the simple difference between right and wrong and living your life accordingly. Forget about distractors like Carl Yung who live in their heads when the fight is on the street outside your front door. Recognise when your birthright has been subverted by the evil of Communists like Karl Marx and his paymasters.
Ii have much respect for the ethnonationalist position but I'm also not completely closed to possibility that people who share our core values can help us regain control of England and her brothers and sisters in return for, one day helping them to take back control of their home lands.